The Hidden Fees In My Employer Sponsored Retirement Plan - Arrest Your Debt (2024)

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Now that you have a small insight as to how the mutual fund industry works, I wanted to walk you through my current employer-sponsored retirement plan.


If you missed my earlier article on the Mutual Fund Industry, you can read about it here:Exposing The Mutual Fund Industry. Since I will be exposing some of the hidden truths within this powerful industry, I am not going to disclose my employer or the retirement company that is sponsored because I really don’t want to get sued.

With that being said, my employer-sponsored plan is actually quite good compared to others offered out there. While there are hidden fees in my plan, the fees are reasonable if you know what funds to choose.

While I was doing research for this article, I could not remember the annual fee my retirement provider charged me to administer the plan. This is the administrative fee charged on top of the fees added on the individual funds themselves. I signed on to my online portal but could not find the fee disclosure anywhere.

Calling My Plan For More Information

I decided to call the 1-800 number on the top of the website. I initially spoke with a nice lady and asked her about the annual fee. I told her all I needed to know was how much the annual fee was that they charged me for administering my plan. She didn’t even attempt to answer and told me she would need to transfer me.

I sat on hold for five minutes until someone picked up. The first lady answered and introduced me to a man who she said could answer my questions about fees. I relayed my initial question and told him I just needed to know the annual fee I was charged. He told me he didn’t think there was an annual fee on my plan to which I quickly informed him that I was positive there was an annual fee.

I sat on the phone with him as he continued to look at his computer. He finally found that my plan charges an annual fee of .12%. This fee is charged on top of the fees charged by the individual funds.

For reference, he told me that the annual fee information was on page 6 of my disclosure forms. I looked through my paper copies and found the language (in small print) on page 6. Here is the fee disclosure:

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Does that make sense to you? There is a reason they don’t just write: This plan charges a .12% annual fee for maintaining the plan. What are T1 and T2? Without getting into the weeds, the T1 and T2 denote differences between funds as to the time the actual transaction of the funds take place.

In other words, T1 funds charge a .12% fee and T2’s don’t. All of the funds in my plan are T1 funds – except one which is a stable income low return fund – that you shouldn’t be invested in.

After recording that .12% fee, I looked further into my plan. Below is a front page view and explanation of my statement:

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The very first line is the annual fee that was taken out of my account and charged by my plan – the fee that the representative didn’t think I was charged.

The second line is a recent purchase of stock I made that came directly out of my check pre-tax.

The third line of “Reinvested Dividend Adjustment” shows the amount of money I received from owning specific stocks within my funds. Refer to my article Stock Market Basicsfor information on dividends.

The activity report should be self-explanatory and the reason the dividends is $0.00 in this section is due to the short time frame that is recorded (10/1 – 10/10)

Investment Options

Next, I took a look at the options I have to invest in based on my plan. Below is a screenshot of the options available to me.

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The first picture is of the available target date funds. I will go deeper into target-date funds in the future, but in essence, they automatically change what you are invested in based on your anticipated retirement date. They become more conservative the closer you get to retirement.

In theory, they are a great option. For my plan, they charge very small fees compared to other target date funds. However, based on my investment strategy, target date funds are not for me.

The second page involves more traditional fund options. Below is a diagram of the page with explanations.
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Explaining The Fees

Now before you go investing your money, you need to pay attention to track records and expense ratios. When I look at a fund, I don’t usually don’t give much credit to the Year To Date percentage. Those can fluctuate significantly depending on where we are in the year and just because a fund manager is doing great this year doesn’t mean they performed great in prior years.

It also doesn’t mean they aren’t going to fall on their face next year either. You can see that in the large-cap funds there are two fund options. One appears to be performing better than the other wouldn’t you agree? Then why am I invested in the fund that isn’t performing as well? (Denoted by the check mark) There are several reasons I’m invested in the second fund.

  1. The top fund has performed better every year right? Well, look at the inception dates. The top fund was created in December of 2016. We have been in a historic bull market since the recession and pretty much everything has been going up. The inception date of the second fund goes all the back to 1990 – yet still has averaged a 10.05% return each year. That is stellar compared to most actively managed funds.
  2. I look at expense ratios. The top fund charges .64% annually while the second fund charges .04%. While this may not seem like much, the more than .5 percent is significant over time when you factor in compound interest!

The Games They Play

If you look at the funds in my plan, there is one new one that is outperforming the older more established fund in a few of the categories. Coincidence? I think not… the older funds are index funds and the newer funds are actively managed funds.

Mutual fund companies pay extra money to retirement plans so you can bet that part of that expense ratio is going to my plan sponsor. Mutual fund companies bid with retirement plans and make deals to get their funds in the plan. Win-win for everyone! Except for the investor.

Why Are The Newer Funds Outperforming The Older Ones?

Mutual fund companies frequently create new funds. For instance, they may create 5 funds, and if one does well, they scrap all the others and promote the best fund. Throw enough at the wall and hope something sticks.. makes sense right?

Take into account the newer funds in this plan. What do you think they will do if one of these funds starts performing poorly and can’t keep up with the index? They will replace it with a fund that is performing better at that moment and ride it as long as they can until it tanks as well. It’s a game my friends, a game the 17 trillion dollar industry hopes you don’t figure out.

How To Invest

Before you start investing, start thinking about what you need the money for. For me, I don’t need to touch my account for another 20+ years so I have plenty of time. I invest in different indexes.

If the market tanks for the next 3 years, it doesn’t affect me because I’m in it for the long haul. I will leave my money there and buy as much as I can while the market is down. Never, ever, pull your money out when the market is down (if you’re invested in a mutual fund). The market has always recovered – just be patient and wait it out.

If you try to time the market, you will pull your money out and put it back in at the wrong time and miss out on all the opportunities – including dividends. Slow and steady wins the race. The object is to do the best job you can with the information you have. Pay attention to those fees, inception dates, and past performance.

While past performance is not an indicator of future performance, it can give you some insight as to how the market performs over time.

If you have a much shorter time until retirement, I would seek the advice of a Registered Investment Adviser (Fiduciary) and ask questions about fees.

Thank you so much for reading and please comment below if there are any questions you have that I forgot to address!! I would love to hear from you and please subscribe to my blog by entering your email below.

If you found this beneficial please share it across social media to help promote my blog and help as many people as we can! Keep at it – you work too hard to be this broke!
-Ryan

The Hidden Fees In My Employer Sponsored Retirement Plan - Arrest Your Debt (2024)

FAQs

Are there hidden fees in a 401k? ›

Key Takeaways. 401(k) plans come with various fees that aren't always evident to the investor but can greatly impact an account's return over the long-term. Reflecting mostly administrative and investment management costs, 401(k) fees spring from two sources: the plan provider and the individual funds within the plan.

Why am I being charged fees on my 401k? ›

By far the largest component of 401(k) plan fees and expenses is associated with managing plan investments. Fees for investment management and other investment-related services generally are assessed as a percentage of assets invested. You should pay attention to these fees.

Can debt collectors take your 401k? ›

Typically creditors can't seize or garnish the assets in your 401(k), because it is protected by ERISA. There are three main exceptions: with the federal government, for back taxes; with some child support payments; and with the solo 401(k), which is more vulnerable.

What is a commonly undisclosed fee found within many 401 K plans with insurance companies? ›

Another commonly undisclosed fee is the wrap fee. This is often charged to plans too small to be of direct interest to the fund companies.

How do I avoid 401k management fees? ›

9 Ways to Avoid 401(k) Fees and Penalties
  1. Avoid the 401(k) early withdrawal penalty.
  2. Shop around for low-cost funds.
  3. Read your 401(k) fee disclosure statement.
  4. Don't leave a job before you vest in the 401(k) plan.
  5. Directly roll over your 401(k) to a new account.
  6. Compare 401(k) loans to other borrowing options.

What are 401k penalties and fees? ›

What is the 401(k) early withdrawal penalty? If you withdraw money from your 401(k) before you're 59½, the IRS usually assesses a 10% tax as an early distribution penalty. That could mean giving the government $1,000, or 10% of a $10,000 withdrawal, in addition to paying ordinary income tax on that money.

What to do if employer 401k has high fees? ›

Bottom Line. Understanding your 401(k) fees can help you make informed retirement savings decisions. If you think your fees are too high, investigate whether your plans have a low-fee fund option. You can also ask your employer or HR department to include more low-cost investment options in your company plan.

Who pays the fees in a company 401k? ›

How Fees are Paid. Administrative fees are paid by either the 401(k) participant or the plan sponsor. Investment fees are (in most cases) paid by plan participants. In practice, most total 401(k) plan costs are paid by plan participants.

Can I deduct 401k management fees? ›

You won't get a tax deduction for paying your 401(k) fees, but 401(k) contributions are another story. The money you put in is tax-deductible, which reduces your taxable income. That can indirectly lower your tax bill during your working years.

Can I empty my 401k to pay off debt? ›

In some cases, you might be able to withdraw funds from a 401(k) to pay off debt without incurring extra fees. This is true if you qualify as having an immediate and heavy financial need, and meet IRS criteria. In those circ*mstances, you could take a hardship withdrawal.

What type of bank account cannot be garnished? ›

Some sources of income are considered protected in account garnishment, including: Social Security, and other government benefits or payments. Funds received for child support or alimony (spousal support) Workers' compensation payments.

Can my 401k be seized in a lawsuit? ›

In general, retirement plans that are covered by ERISA are protected from creditors—and their lawsuits. A 401(k) is an ERISA-qualified plan, so it is likely protected if you get sued. There may be a few exceptions, such as charges brought by the federal government or if you allegedly wronged the plan.

What are undisclosed fees? ›

Hidden fees might also be referred to as undisclosed fees and the very nature of this term means that a consumer might only realize the effect these fees have had on their accounts after the fact.

Why are there undisclosed fees? ›

Some clubs may not like to disclose how much they feel they were forced to pay to get their prized possession, which may invite expectation and pressure. There are also reasons, such as the complications with extra clauses, incentives, add-ons, sell-on fees, stage payments, bonuses and more that also add to the mix.

What is a 401k fee disclosure? ›

This 401(k) plan fee disclosure form may assist you in making informed cost-benefit decisions with respect to your plan. The purpose of this form is to help you determine the total cost of the plan.

What fees are associated with a 401k loan? ›

401(k) loans vs. personal loans
401(k) loanPersonal loan
Minimum credit scoreNo minimum, no credit checkUsually 620 or higher (some lenders accept lower scores)
FeesOrigination fees, annual fees, default fees (depending on employer)Origination fees, late fees, insufficient funds fees (depending on lender)
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How to see fees on a 401k? ›

The easiest way to find information on 401(k) fees is by using required disclosures. Starting in 2012, retirement plan service providers (companies that work with 401(k) plans) are required to share information about your plan's fees. They have to describe the amount you pay in fees as well as what you get in return.

Are there fees to roll over 401k? ›

Key Takeaways. There is usually no transfer fee charged when you roll over your 401(k) into a new tax-advantaged retirement account. Account fees for your new account might be higher than the ones for your old account. Rolling over a 401(k) to an IRA is often the way to go to reduce fees.

Does my fidelity 401k have fees? ›

Fidelity 401(k) fees encompass various types of charges, including administrative fees, investment fees, individual service fees, and plan termination fees, each contributing to the overall cost of managing the retirement account.

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