Stocks — Part I: There's a Major Market Crash Coming!!!! and Dr. Lo Can't Save You. (2024)

Stocks — Part I: There's a Major Market Crash Coming!!!! and Dr. Lo Can't Save You. (1)

I’m feeling testy today. I just finished an article in Money Magazine and reading this magazine is, in and of itself, enough to make me testy.

This particular piece is an article on page 87 of the March 2012 edition interviewing Dr. Andrew Lo*. Dr. Lo is an economist and finance professor at MIT’s Sloan School of Management. There are a couple of impressive photos of Dr. Lo looking serious and imposing.

I’m going to tell you what he says and why he’s wrong. You can see the article here if you’d like: http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/02/pf/efficient_market.moneymag/index.htm

Oh, and that major market crash that’s coming? Don’t worry. I’m also going to tell you why it doesn’t matter.

First, in fairness to Dr. Lo, I have no quarrel with most of his ideas. In fact, it is very possible the good folks at Money didn’t quite get it right. Perhaps they simply didn’t put the emphasis correctly. Maybe someday Dr. Lo and I will have a few laughs over a cup of coffee on this. Or not.

Basically Dr. Lo contends that the long-held theory of efficient markets is morphing into what he calls the”‘adaptive markets hypothesis.” The idea is that with new trading technologies the market has become faster moving and more volatile. That means greater risk. So far so good.

But he goes on to say this means “buy and hold investing doesn’t work anymore.” Money then points out, and good for them, that even during the “lost decade” of the 2000s buy and hold would have returned 4%.

Dr. Lo responds: “Think about how that person earned 4%. He lost 30%, saw a big bounce back, and so on, and the compound rate of return….was 4%. But most investors did not wait for the dust to settle. After the first 25% loss, they probably reduced their holdings, and only got part way back in after the market somewhat recovered. It’s human behavior.”

Hold the bloody phone! Correct premise, wrong conclusion. We’ll come back to this in a moment.

Money: So what choice do I have instead?

Dr. Lo: “We’re in an awkward period of our industry where we haven’t developed good alternatives. Your best bet is to hold a variety of mutual funds that have relatively low fees and try to manage the volatility within a reasonable range. You should be diversified not just with stocks and bonds but across the entire spectrum of investment opportunities: stocks, bonds, currencies, commodities, and domestically and internationally.”

Money: Does the government have a role in preventing these crises?

Dr. Lo: “It’s not possible to prevent financial crises.”

In the on-line comments a guy named Patrick McGuinness nails it: “So, markets are efficient except when they’re not. And buy and hold doesn’t work because most people don’t stick to it at the wrong time. OK wisdom, but is this news?” Gold star, Mr. McGuinness.

Let me add, Dr. Lo’s recommendation (since he contends “buy and hold” no longer works) is to buy and hold lots of different stuff. Huh?

Let’s accept Dr. Lo’s premise that markets have gotten more volatile and will likely stay that way. I’m not sure I buy it, but OK, he’s the credentialed economist. We can also agree that the typical investor is prone to panic and poor decision-making, especially when all the cable news gurus are lining up on window ledges. We certainly agree that it is not possible to prevent financial crises. More are headed our way.

So the question that matters is, how do we best deal with it?

Dr. Lo says:

Treat the symptoms.

Hedefaults to the all too common canard of Asset Allocation (Some Asset Allocation can be useful and we discuss that in this series here and here). He would have us invest in everythingand hope a couple of those puppies pull through. To do this properly is going to require a ton of work understanding the asset classes, deciding on percents for each, choosing how to own them, rebalancing and tracking. All this to guarantee sub-par performance over time while offering the hope of increased security. I am reminded of the quote: “Those who would trade liberty for security deserve neither.”

jlcollinsnh says:

Stocks — Part I: There's a Major Market Crash Coming!!!! and Dr. Lo Can't Save You. (2)

Toughen up bucko and cure your bad behavior.

Take the cure. Recognize the counterproductive psychology that causes bad investment decisions and correct it in yourself.

To start you need to understand a few things about the stock market:

1. Market crashes are to be expected. What happened in 2008 was not something unheard. It has happened before and it will happen again. And again. I’ve been investing for almost 40 years. In that time we’ve had:

  • The great recession of 1974-75.
  • The massive inflation of the late 1970s & early 1980. Raise your hand if you remember WIN buttons (Whip Inflation Now). Mortgage rates were pushing 20%. You could buy 10-year Treasuries paying 15%+.
  • The now infamous 1979 Business Week cover: “The Death of Equities,” which, as it turned out, marked the coming of the greatest bull market of all time.
  • The Crash of 1987. Biggest one day drop in history. Brokers were, literally, on the window ledges and more than a couple took the leap.
  • The recession of the early ’90s.
  • The Tech Crash of the late ’90s.
  • 9/11.
  • And that little dust-up in 2008.

2. The market always recovers. Always. And, if someday it really doesn’t, no investment will be safe and none of this financial stuff will matter anyway.

In 1974 the Dow closed at 616*. At the end of 2014 it was 17,823*. Over that 40 year period (January 1975 – January 2015) the S&P 500 (a broader and more telling index) grew at an annualized rate of 11.9%** If you had invested $1,000 then it would have grown to $89,790*** as 2015 dawned. An impressive result through all those disasters above.

All you would have had to do is Toughen up and let it ride. Take a moment and let that sink in. This is the most important point I’ll be making today.

Everybody makes money when the market is rising. But what determines whether it will make you wealthy or leave you bleeding on the side of the road, is what you do during the times it is collapsing.

3.The market always goes up. Always. Bet no one’s told you that before. But it’s true. Understand this is not to say it is a smooth ride. It’s not. It is most often a wild and rocky road. But it always, and I mean always, goes up. Not each year. Not each month. Not each week and certainly not each day. But take a moment and look at any chart of the stock market over time. The trend is relentlessly, through disaster after disaster, up.

4.The market is the single best performing investment class over time. Bar none.

5. The next 10, 20, 30, 40 years will have just as many collapses, recessions and disasters as in the past. Like the good Dr. Lo says, it’s not possible to prevent them. No question, every time your investments will take a hit. Every time it will be scary as hell. Every time all the smart guys will be screaming: Sell!! And every time the guys with enough nerve will prosper.

6. This is why you have to toughen up and learn to ignore the noise, stay the course and ride out the storm. Oh, and Buy!

7. To do this, you need to know these bad things are coming. They will happen. They will hurt. But like blizzards in winter they should never be a surprise. And, unless you panic they won’t matter.

8.There’s a major market crash coming!! And there’ll be another after that!! What wonderful buying opportunities they’ll be.

Stocks — Part I: There's a Major Market Crash Coming!!!! and Dr. Lo Can't Save You. (3)

The world isn’t going to end on our watch.

I tell my 20-year-old that during her 60-70 odd years of being an investor she can expect to see 2008 level financial meltdowns every 15-20 years or so. That’s 3-4 of these economic “end of the world” events coming her, and your, way. Smaller versions even more often.

Thing is, they are never the end of the world. They are part of the process. So is all the panic that surrounds them. So, of course, is all the hype that will surround the 3-4-5 mega bull markets she’ll see over those same years.

About those the financial media will be confidently saying “this time it’s different.” In this too they will be wrong.

In the next few posts in this series we’ll discuss why the market always goes up, and I’ll tell you exactly how to invest at each stage of your life, wind up rich and stay that way. You won’t believe how simple it is. But yer gonna have to be tough.

*Note:In the comments below Robert takes me to task for being too harsh on Dr. Lo and his ideas. If you agree, good news! You can now invest with him. In the Forbes 2015 Investment Guide (December 2014 issue) Dr. Lo is one of four academics featured in an article titled “Profits from the Profs” on page 96. To quote the article directly:

“These days Lo puts some of his theories to work as founder of AlphaSimplex Group, with its $3 billion Natixis ASG Global Alternatives Fund (GAFYX), which invests in a constantly changing menu of securities, including stock index, currency and commodities futures and forwards, dialing the risk up and down according to the volatility of the underlying markets. Returns have been a mediocre 5.1% a year since the fund was launched in September 2008, just half the S&P 500’s return. But Lo argues the fund did its job in the tumultuous final months of 2008, dropping only 3% compared with an 11% loss for hedge funds with similar strategies and a 23% dive in the S&P.”

For this the fund sports a breath-taking expense ratio of 1.33% and 5.75% sales load insuring at least Dr. Lo will be made wealthier.

Note 2: FromKendall Frederick in the the comments below:

“I just re-read this post as I was giving somebody a link to the series. I guess I was sufficiently bored enough to Google Dr. Andrew Lo, and I found this funny: his Alpha Simplex hedge fund you mention above folded last year after underperforming several years in a row. I suspect the good doctor didn’t do badly, however, with the fees and front end load.”

http://www.wsj.com/articles/when-hedging-cuts-both-ways-1403312648

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What happens to my savings if the stock market crashes? ›

While it appears that you're losing money during a market crash, in reality, it's just your stocks losing value. For example, say you buy 10 shares of a stock priced at $100 per share, so your total account balance is $1,000. If that stock price drops to $80 per share, those shares are now only worth $800.

How can you protect your money from a stock market crash? ›

Other smart advice for protecting your portfolio against a market crash includes hedging your bets by playing the options game; paying off debts to keep a stable balance sheet, and using tax-loss harvesting to mitigate your losses.

Where is your money safe if the stock market crashes? ›

Bonds usually go up in value when the stock market crashes, but not all the time. The bonds that do best in a market crash are government bonds such as U.S. Treasuries. Riskier bonds like junk bonds and high-yield credit do not fare as well.

What stocks to buy when the market crashes? ›

Recession stocks are defensive stocks that can sustain growth or limit losses during an economic downturn because their products or services are always in demand. The best recession stocks include consumer staples, utilities and healthcare stocks.

Can the bank take your money if the stock market crashes? ›

Your money is safe in a bank, even during an economic decline like a recession. Up to $250,000 per depositor, per account ownership category, is protected by the FDIC or NCUA at a federally insured financial institution.

What to do when you lose all your money in the stock market? ›

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Will I lose my 401k if the stock market crashes? ›

What Happens to My 401(k) If the Stock Market Crashes? If you are invested in stocks, those holdings will likely see their value fall. But if you have several years until you need your retirement account money, keep contributing, as you may be able to buy many stocks on sale.

Where is the best place to put money during a stock market crash? ›

Buy Bonds during a Market Crash

Down markets are also a chance for investors to consider an area that novice investors might miss: Bond investing. Government bonds are generally considered the safest investment, though they are decidedly unsexy and usually offer meager returns compared to stocks and even other bonds.

Who gets the money when the stock market crashes? ›

A decrease in implicit value, for instance, leaves the owners of the stock with a loss in value because their asset is now worth less than its original price. Again, no one else necessarily receives the money; it simply vanishes due to investors' perceptions.

Should I take my money out of the stock market now? ›

Key Takeaways. While holding or moving to cash might feel good mentally and help avoid short-term stock market volatility, it is unlikely to be wise over the long term. Once you cash out a stock that's dropped in price, you move from a paper loss to an actual loss.

Will the market crash in 2024? ›

While many experts are making predictions about whether the market will crash in 2024 or how severe the next downturn will be, it's impossible to say with certainty where stock prices will be in the short term. However, the market's long-term performance is all but guaranteed to be positive.

Who keeps the money you lose in the stock market? ›

“In other words, the money did not exist or disappear for long-term investors if you did not make any transactions. However, for short-term investors, when stock prices go up or down, the money would be transferred among them as a zero-sum game, i.e. your losses would be others' gains, and vice versa.”

Where is the safest place to put your money during a recession? ›

Where to put money during a recession. Putting money in savings accounts, money market accounts, and CDs keeps your money safe in an FDIC-insured bank account (or NCUA-insured credit union account). Alternatively, invest in the stock market with a broker.

Is Walmart a good stock to buy? ›

Walmart has a consensus rating of Strong Buy which is based on 27 buy ratings, 3 hold ratings and 0 sell ratings. What is Walmart's price target? The average price target for Walmart is $74.11. This is based on 30 Wall Streets Analysts 12-month price targets, issued in the past 3 months.

How to make money in a stock market crash? ›

Another way to make money on a crisis is to bet that one will happen. Short-selling stocks or short equity index futures is one way to profit from a bear market. A short seller borrows shares they don't already own to sell them and, hopefully, repurchase them at a lower price.

Should I keep all my savings in the stock market? ›

“I advise my clients that any money they are going to need to spend in the next two to three years should not be invested in stocks,” says Itkin. “You do not want to have to sell during a bear market and risk losing principal.”

Should I take my savings out of the stock market? ›

Key Takeaways. While holding or moving to cash might feel good mentally and help avoid short-term stock market volatility, it is unlikely to be wise over the long term. Once you cash out a stock that's dropped in price, you move from a paper loss to an actual loss.

Can you lose your IRA if the stock market crashes? ›

A recession could result in a lower IRA balance, but that's not guaranteed to happen. If a recession does negatively impact your IRA, your best bet is to do nothing. It's a good idea to have an emergency fund for surprise expenses that could pop up during a recession, so you can let your IRA recover.

What happens to my money when a stock goes down? ›

Just as a high number of buyers creates value, a high number of sellers erodes value. So even though it might feel like someone is taking your money when your stock declines, the cash is simply disappearing into thin air with the popularity of the stock.

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