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actionplayer
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- Jul 16, 2017
- #1
If so why? And what is the common oz of break cues that pro players have?
billiardthought
Anti-intellectualism
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- Jul 16, 2017
- #2
I like my break cue to be 18 and my shooter 19. Those weights feel most comfortable to me. No idea what should be the correct weight.
HawaiianEye
AzB Silver Member
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- Jul 16, 2017
- #3
I like my break cue to be no heavier than my playing cue. It can even be a little bit lighter.
I can swing a lighter cue faster than I can a big heavy cue and I can make the cue ball go faster.
TILT9
Banned
- Jul 17, 2017
- #4
I've known cues as heavy as 28oz , and as light as 14oz.
most often break cues average 18 - 20oz.
should be, does not play in this scenario, player ability, experience and preference does.
hope this helps.
strmanglr scott
All about Focus
Silver Member
- Jul 17, 2017
- #5
I think it's just a matter of preference.
I feel having a heavier cue enables a slower stroke w the same cb speed as a lighter cue with a higher stroke speed.
Less stroke speed=more control.
Play cue:18.5oz
Break cue:26oz
I didn't seek out that weight for break cue, I just liked the cue.
BC21
https://www.playpoolbetter.com
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #6
As someone already stated, a lighter cue gives you a faster break speed, while a heavier cue is slower speed. But the force behind that speed is a large factor in determining how much power goes into the cue ball. A 21oz cue is 3.5 times heavier than a cue ball, where a 15oz cue us only 2.5 times heavier. At equal stroke speeds the heavy cue will provide a more forceful break.
The light cue would have to be stroke faster to get the same break action. It's a matter of personal preference, how much control and power you prefer to adopt.
But if you're looking to buy a jump-break cue, you'll want a lighter-weighted cue. (Jumping is more difficult with a heavier cue, and you'll find longer jumps easy using a full length lighter cue.)
strmanglr scott
All about Focus
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #7
BC21 said:
But if you're looking to buy a jump-break cue, you'll want a lighter-weighted cue. (Jumping is more difficult with a heavier cue, and you'll find longer jumps easy using a full length lighter cue.)
Maybe that explains why I can't jump w my jump/break cue for crap but it's easy w my dedicated jumper. I'll have to check their weight.
GoldCrown
Pool players have more balls
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #8
I think there is no substitute for experimenting until you find what you break best with. I started out with an extremely heavy breaker(over20oz) and it was no better than a breaker under 20oz. I think it is more about technique than equipment.
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marek
AzB Silver Member
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #9
strmanglr scott said:
I think it's just a matter of preference.
I feel having a heavier cue enables a slower stroke w the same cb speed as a lighter cue with a higher stroke speed.
Less stroke speed=more control.
Play cue:18.5oz
Break cue:26oz
I didn't seek out that weight for break cue, I just liked the cue.
Do know that your break cue is exceeding the maximum legal weight of 25oz set by WPA equipment specifications?
Coop1701
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #10
GoldCrown said:
I think there is no substitute for experimenting until you find what you break best with. I started out with an extremely heavy breaker(over20oz) and it was no better than a breaker under 20oz. I think it is more about technique than equipment.
I totally agree... I always thought heavier was better for me until someone sold me a light break cue. Now that I have gotten use to it. I think I am going to stick with lighter. My suggestion is to now be scared to test out weights and work on your technique.
dr_dave
Instructional Author
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #11
actionplayer said:
Should your break cue weigh less than your playing cue? If so why?
The short answer is: It depends on the person.
For the long answer, see the optimal cue weight resource page.
Enjoy,
Dave
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cuesblues
cue accumulator
Silver Member
- Jul 17, 2017
- #12
Current break jump is 17.8 oz, and my playing cues are typically over 19.0.
Can't break with a heavy cue
I like a light break cue with a really hard tip
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actionplayer
AzB Silver Member
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #13
dr_dave said:
The short answer is: It depends on the person.
For the long answer, see the optimal cue weight resource page.
Enjoy,
Dave
Thanks for that resource page link.
I did figure the lighter cue would give me more speed but the heavier more deliberate accuracy because swung slower. I think I started off too light (15 0z) the shaft actually ended up breaking although was a cheap end cue and then went to 21 oz break jump which is fin but ill feel ok i get no "pop" in my break just kind of a flat slug hit.
I play with 18/19 so feel like I best go to that.
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qbilder
slower than snails
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #14
I break with my playing cue. For me, the break is rarely harder than a power draw or hard punch shot, which is still pretty dang hard. Hitting the front ball square & clean matters more to me than hitting it hard, as well as being able to control the cue ball. I have more confidence in my playing cue than I do a cue I use only once per game, if I'm winning.
When I did use a break cue, I'd make it to very closely match my player in terms of weight, balance, and dimension.
fastone371
Certifiable
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #15
BC21 said:
As someone already stated, a lighter cue gives you a faster break speed, while a heavier cue is slower speed. But the force behind that speed is a large factor in determining how much power goes into the cue ball. A 21oz cue is 3.5 times heavier than a cue ball, where a 15oz cue us only 2.5 times heavier. At equal stroke speeds the heavy cue will provide a more forceful break.
The light cue would have to be stroke faster to get the same break action. It's a matter of personal preference, how much control and power you prefer to adopt.But if you're looking to buy a jump-break cue, you'll want a lighter-weighted cue. (Jumping is more difficult with a heavier cue, and you'll find longer jumps easy using a full length lighter cue.)
How can a person have a more "forceful" break? The only variable is cue ball speed. If the cue ball travels faster I suppose you would have more force and slower would be less force but no matter what its all about speed.
Baron
AzB Silver Member
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #16
My break sucks with a 15 ounce cue equally as bad as it sucks with a 25 ounce cue. My current breaker happens to be around 18oz or maybe a little lighter and I like it just fine.
strmanglr scott
All about Focus
Silver Member
- Jul 17, 2017
- #17
marek said:
Do know that your break cue is exceeding the maximum legal weight of 25oz set by WPA equipment specifications?
I was gonna say I'll let them worry about that.
Then you got me thinking, why would someone manufacture a cue over spec regs?
Looked it up, it's 25oz, my bad.
It's a Rage break/jump I got from Seyberts. Love that place only being about an hour drive away.
strmanglr scott
All about Focus
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #18
Baron said:
My break sucks with a 15 ounce cue equally as bad as it sucks with a 25 ounce cue. My current breaker happens to be around 18oz or maybe a little lighter and I like it just fine.
I don't get that.(keep in mind I play mainly 8 ball) I understand a 15-17oz being hard to break you have to have blazing cue speed. But anything over that is cake.
cuesblues
cue accumulator
Silver Member
- Jul 17, 2017
- #19
strmanglr scott said:
I was gonna say I'll let them worry about that.
Then you got me thinking, why would someone manufacture a cue over spec regs?
Looked it up, it's 25oz, my bad.
It's a Rage break/jump I got from Seyberts. Love that place only being about an hour drive away.
A guy gave me an old 25 oz. Imported break cue.
I weighed it, and it only weighed 24.2 ounces.
He obviously got cheated out of .8 ounces worth of imported cue.
By my calculations they got him for just under 2-bucks based on a retail purchase, but I doubt he paid retail.
I still have it
That's no sh*t
Dan Harriman
One of the best in 14.1
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- Jul 17, 2017
- #20
actionplayer said:
If so why? And what is the common oz of break cues that pro players have?
Slow or worn cloth - use heavier break cue. New cloth - light break cue.
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