Question Boy
Stainless
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- May 11, 2005
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- Napa, California
- Oct 8, 2007
- #1
I have some 4130 tubing which is plated with what I think is Olive Drab colored Zinc.
Anyone know what solution will remove this plating? Phosphoric Acid?
I want to put a uniform finish on these parts with sand paper or scotch-brite, but the coating takes forever to remove with this method, and I'm never really sure I've gotten it all off.
QB
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L Vanice
Diamond
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- Feb 8, 2006
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- Fort Wayne, IN
- Oct 8, 2007
- #2
I use hydrochloric acid to get zinc off of screws that I want to blacken. It is cheap and sold at building supply stores for use on masonry.
Larry
aboard_epsilon
Titanium
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- Mar 19, 2003
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- North Wales GB
- Oct 8, 2007
- #3
hydrochloric acid will take that stuff strait off ...that's if you are talking about the rainbowy gold electroplated stuff .
other zinc plating ..galvanising.the dull grey stuff ..you can polish on a buffing machine to a very good chrome like finish.....finish is short lived before it goes dull again and has to be sealed with lacquer or waxed regularly.
if using hydrochloric ...make sure you neutralise with bicarb or it will rust like crazy.
good source of hydrochloric is masonry cleaner .....look out for one that contains over 15 percent .
all the best..mark
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stuball48
Stainless
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- Sep 10, 2006
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- Dickson, TN
- Oct 8, 2007
- #4
Have you tried "Lime Away?" It works for me on screws that are zinc coated. You might be talking about a heavier coating of zinc on the tubing?
anchorman
Titanium
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- Oct 8, 2007
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make sure you do this outside or in a properly ventilated fume hood. If I am not mistaken, the results of the chemical reaction are zinc chloride and hydrogen gas (fire). plus, the acid fumes are hard on your lungs.
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metalmagpie
Titanium
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- Oct 8, 2007
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Ah, for once I have the actual perfect answer. Go to your supermarket (or old school hardware store if necessary) and buy a can of Red Devil lye. Make up a weak solution of lye (in water) and toss your parts in overnight. It will not only eat the zinc, but any rust on your parts will vanish as though by magic.
This isn't theory, I did this recently for some old caster bases I was using in a project. I removed the zinc to get the rust off easily, and so I didn't have to deal with any zinc fumes when welding, and because the project will live inside.
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homemade
Cast Iron
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- Oct 9, 2007
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go to the building supply store and buy a gallon of muriatic acid (hydrochloric acid), dip the piece and leave it for a while until it quits bubbling. zinc, dipped or electroplated is gone, the steel is now ready for welding ect. When the acid has dissolved all the zinc that it can hold it is ready to be used for non electrical lead solder flux.
anchorman
Titanium
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- Oct 9, 2007
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homemade,
do you know how they get that zinc chloride flux to get all nice and gooey, so that it sticks to what you are soldering?
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If the muriatic acid (same as hydrochloric acid) dip does not quickly remove the zinc plating, that usually means that you have cadmium plating. Cad can be removed with a solution of ammonium nitrate heated to 140-150F.
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Scott R
Hot Rolled
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- Oct 9, 2007
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I've bead blasted off cad plating. Leaves a nice satin finish. Would it work for zinc?
Empireweld
Aluminum
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- Cucamonga, Ca. USA
- Oct 10, 2007
- #11
I use muriatic acid to strip plating and to pickle
hot rolled steel that I plan to heliarc. Can't get red devil lye in Socal anymore. Even the hardcore hardware stores don't have it. I bought some bulk NaOh from the local chemical supplier for making Biodiesel.
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RickWGMkII
Cast Iron
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- Aug 19, 2007
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- SoCal
- Oct 10, 2007
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Olive Drab is probably Cad #3 (Cad1 is silver, Cad2 is gold). I remove Cad plating with muratic, I use one of those stainless food trays they sell at Fart & Smile.
Question Boy
Stainless
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- Napa, California
- Oct 10, 2007
- #13
Olive Drab is probably Cad #3 (Cad1 is silver, Cad2 is gold). I remove Cad plating with muratic, I use one of those stainless food trays they sell at Fart & Smile.
Smart & Final? That one took me a minute, but my wife got a kick out of it...
aboard_epsilon mentions neutralizing with bicarb. Can anyone elaborate on this process? Is this something I do after the acid dip?
Thanks again for the great info..
QB
anchorman
Titanium
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- Oct 10, 2007
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baking soda and water. make sure you use enough to neutralize ALL of the acid.
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homemade
Cast Iron
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- wilson nc
- Oct 11, 2007
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Anchorman
I do not know how to make it gooey, but would like to, I think. probably discusting.
In the meantime, how do you do the Quote "thing"?
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RickWGMkII
Cast Iron
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- Oct 11, 2007
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Not sure about others, but I put [*quote*] at the beginning & [*/quote*] at the end & just cut & paste what I need in between that.
(The *'s aren't supposed to be there, I just added those to make it show up without actually quoting. hth)
anchorman
Titanium
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- Oct 11, 2007
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homemade,
you can also do the "full reply form" which gives you a whole bunch of options. so you don't have to type out all the code. also allows you to get email notifications, etc.
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