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Vsper

So what happens to a simulacrum when its caster dies? I assume it becomes free willed. Does it know its a simulacrum?
Vsper

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I'm unaware of any rules regarding this.

I think it would be ok to treat it as a Homunculus, which is somewhat similar, if you need a quick solution.

sunbeam

If you are old enough to have read the Gord the Rogue novels, Eclavdra made a simulacrum of herself that became free willed (and Gord's love interest).

I actually have those books but haven't read them since the 80's. I'm not sure if Eclavdra was dead when this occurred.

No idea if there is any official ruling on this, but apparently a simulacrum becoming a "real girl" was okay with Gary Gygax.

And I'm pretty sure she knew she was a simulacrum.

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According to the spell description:

PRD wrote:

At all times, the simulacrum remains under your absolute command. No special telepathic link exists, so command must be exercised in some other manner. A simulacrum has no ability to become more powerful. It cannot increase its level or abilities. If reduced to 0 hit points or otherwise destroyed, it reverts to snow and melts instantly into nothingness. A complex process requiring at least 24 hours, 100 gp per hit point, and a fully equipped magical laboratory can repair damage to a simulacrum.

So, the answer seems to be "no." A simulacrum will continue to function and pursue any previous orders, which can be complex and/or long-term, but does not become "free willed."

@sunbeam: That was a variant clone, not a simulacrum. Clones are free-willed on creation.

Shain Edge

sunbeam wrote:

If you are old enough to have read the Gord the Rogue novels, Eclavdra made a simulacrum of herself that became free willed (and Gord's love interest).

I actually have those books but haven't read them since the 80's. I'm not sure if Eclavdra was dead when this occurred.

No idea if there is any official ruling on this, but apparently a simulacrum becoming a "real girl" was okay with Gary Gygax.

And I'm pretty sure she knew she was a simulacrum.

I miss those books. They were some of the most entertaining D&D books written. A child 'abandoned' by his parents who eventually found his only life on the streets. To treasure hunter and adventurer to the Champion of Balance against an EVIL even gods, devils and demons feared. (Sounds like the guy the four horsem*n have changed up in some aspects.)

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FAQs

What happens to simulacrum if you die? ›

As long as you don't lose all your HP, Simulacrum will last. The Simulacrums can still die with every other Set though.

Can a simulacrum cast simulacrum on itself? ›

A simulacrum can copy a simulacrum, because they're not constructs, they're whatever type they were copied from. However, your slot economy is off - when a wizard casts the spell, the copy that's made is missing the slot the wizard expended to cast the spell.

Can simulacrum reproduce? ›

The Simulacrum is an Illusion

No matter how human the Simulacra appear to be, at the end of the day they are effectively just animated ice/snow sculptures. Depending on the depth of the illusion, they could appear to have functioning reproductive organs, and even go so far as to appear to get pregnant and give birth.

Do simulacrums need to eat? ›

As other answers here provide, a simple answer is yes, a simulacrum eats, drinks, sleeps, and breathes. After all, it is a creature, and creatures need to eat, drink, sleep, and breathe; and the spell doesn't say it doesn't have to do these things, so it must.

Can simulacrum be healed? ›

The simulacrum has the statistics of the creature and half its hit points - it does not have any of the racial or class features except for spell slots that cannot be regained so healing surges and short rests don't come into it. If the simulacrum is damaged, you can repair it ... You can repair it; you can't heal it.

Can you cast simulacrum on a dead creature? ›

No, as your corpse is not you. The creature you copy has to be present.

How many times can you cast simulacrum? ›

If you ever try to cast it again, the previous one poofs into snow, so you're limited to a single simulacrum (more on ways to break past this in a bit).

Is simulacrum endless? ›

The Simulacrum is an infinitely scaling wave based alternative game mode that is new to the Survivors of the Void update and DLC. Dio's Best Friend useless for this game mode if played in multiplayer. Special modifiers known as Augments may also (randomly) trigger upon the start of a wave.

Can you clone a simulacrum? ›

Yes, because the simulacrum is a creature. The points you present are plausible reasons for why a DM might disallow cloning a simulacrum in their own campaign setting, but a strict reading of the rules shows that you can clone a simulacrum.

Can a simulacrum cast magic jar? ›

RAW, nothing prevents a simulacrum from casting magic jar.

That being said, there is nothing mechanically that would prevent a simulacrum with a 6th level slot from casting magic jar on itself.

Can you cast polymorph on a simulacrum? ›

Being a simulacrum isn't a statistic of the form.

yes, your Simulacrum is even when true polymorphed just affected by a spell that can be negated by other means, it is still your simulacrum and would be destroyed.

Does a simulacrum need a spellbook? ›

And then you simply hand him over an arcane focus so it can cast all spells without costly components. The biggest issue for a Wizard creating a Simulacrum of itself is that the Simulacrum does not come with it's own spell book, and so needs the Wizard to write one out for it or have prepared to give to it.

How many simulacrum can you have remnant 2? ›

Exactly one Simulacrum will spawn per world in an overworld area. Its location is rolled from a small set of specific locations in the area, listed above. The Simulacrum found in the Forbidden Grove is only accessible after both mid-bosses, near the lever that activates the Water Harp.

Is simulacrum infinite? ›

Simulacrum is an endless, wave-based arena mode that can be played in both single or multiplayer. Taking place in a Void simulation, there is only one outcome: your simulated demise.

Do simulacrum regain class features? ›

The simulacrum lacks the ability to learn or become more powerful, so it never increases its level or other abilities, nor can it regain expended spell slots.

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